About Last Night on ‘Glee’: Conservative Trashing? What Conservative Trashing?
by Jenny EriksonThe following article contains spoilers. You’ve been warned.
Glee is back! Come on, guys, get excited!
Anyone?
Just me? Well ok then. I’m not afraid to admit, loudly and proudly, I totally heart Glee. I’ve been a fan of high school dramedies since Joey crawled through Dawson’s window, and when you throw musical theatre into the mix … pure entertainment, Baby!
So what if it’s a microcosm of leftist indoctrination that spoon-feeds liberal drivel into eagerly waiting mouths? What isn’t, these days? Cue my theme song, because that’s where I come in. This year I’ll be tuning into Glee and reporting back to you fabulous Big Hollywood readers the blatant misrepresentations of reality that were sung and danced into living rooms across the nation.
Get the facts! Fight the smears!
(Sorry. Couldn’t help it.)
Anyway. The season 3 opener on Tuesday was filled with blog fodder: Cheerleading Coach from Hell Sue Sylvester is running for congress, the only stable relationship continues to be the one between gay boys, and Quinn tries to ‘find herself’ by dying her hair pink and lighting a purple piano on fire with a cigarette.
Sue Sylvester gains in the polls by announcing that she wants to cut all funding for the arts at public schools. She goes on the local news station to tell parents they’re going to have to pay for music lessons themselves, because taxpayers don’t care if your kids can sing or not. Or something to that effect. You know, because Tea Party people are monsters that hate children. And music.
Glee creator Ryan Murphy denies that the election plotline is a mockery of the Tea Party, but Jane Lynch (the actress that plays Sue) says of her character: “She’s going to be more right-wing than Michele Bachmann.”
She even got glitter-bombed. Yeah. I’ll let you guys judge whether or not Glee is mocking conservatives for yourselves.
In high school relationship news, the teenagers are still super slutty. In one scene, Santana and Brittany try to convince Quinn to come back to the Cheerios and glee club by referring to their trio as the unholy trinity, and making light of the fact that they had all slept with Puck the previous year. I bonded with other girls in high school by sharing lip-gloss, by the way.
The only stable relationship continues to be the one between Kurt and Blaine, the flamboyant gay boys. Blaine actually leaves his prestigious private school to join his boyfriend at McKinley High, because he can’t stand to be away from the one he loves so much.
Fine. Go ahead and have a happy gay couple. But pretty please with a cherry on top could we see some happy hetero teens in committed and loving relationships? Pffft. Teenagers in committed and loving relationships. Like that’ll happen on primetime. Well, I guess it does … but only if they’re gay.
Oh yeah, and Quinn rocks a new hairdo and a bad attitude. I foresee a Janis Joplin cover in the near future.
It’s going to be awesome.
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Hey, Glee, here's a song for this upcoming season. Go, Sarah, Go… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXd949Iwjdw
The more I hear about this show, the less inclined I am to watch it and the more convinced I become that it's a symptom of an unhealthy culture.
http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.6417...
"Glee creator Ryan Murphy denies that the election plotline is a mockery of the Tea Party, but Jane Lynch (the actress that plays Sue) says of her character: 'She’s going to be more right-wing than Michele Bachmann.'"
If the Tea Party is a bipartisan movement and not clearly to the right politically, like some people still try to make others believe, then there is no inconsistency between Murphy's statement and Lynch's comment.
Them Gay couples are breeding like . . . well, they'd like to anyway and that is what is really important.
Looks like Bachmann would fit right in on Glee now that's he's hitched her star to the anti-vaccine crazy train that pulled out of Hollywood several years ago. I assume once she starts bashing Sarah Palin, that's where she'll end up.
I dunno. I'm pretty right wing.
The more I see Jenny Erikson, the more I want to share lip gloss with her. Yes, yes I am a bad person.
"She goes on the local news station to tell parents they’re going to have to pay for music lessons themselves, because taxpayers don’t care if your kids can sing or not."
I see no problem with cutting funding for the arts in public school. Public school should prepare you for the real world (i.e. getting a job). When we have kids graduating who can't read, know basic math, or use basic grammar I could give less of a <bleep> about singing and art.
bipartisan doesn't mean a mix of Liberal and Conservative. It means a mix of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
Liberalism has always been the problem, but Liberalism is present in both parties, and the Tea Party represents the return of Conservatism. Conservatives can be from either (or no) party, meaning that the Tea Party is both bipartisan, and "clearly to the right" at the same time.
My wife is into it (who's not political), and I've tried to watch a few episodes with her, but it's cultural diarrhea.
I don't really care, Why this crap is even popular is beyond me. Its Fall and its early to bed and early to rise, for Water Fowl, upland game and Deer Season is near. I spend more time with a shotgun than I do watching TV.
Perfectly illustrating the ignorance that exists as to what the TEA Party represents…..
You couldn't get me within 100 miles of this show even if it was the most conservative thing on TV since Father Knows Best. Unlike Ms. Erickson, I loathe so-called high school dramedy. When this becomes what passes for TV entertainment I thank goodness I didn't cancel my NetFlix membership…yet. At least there's always sports to fall back on.
I don't see Bachmann as anti-vaccine/science. I've known people like that and it is scary because if too many children don't receive their DPT shots, etc., then eventually these diseases will make a come back and it won't be pretty. However, that being said, the government should not be in the business of FORCING someone to be vaccinated against things where there is no danger to public health to anyone who does not engage in known, risky behavior. That seems to me to be the position that Bachmann is taking.
It is quite possible to support the arts while recognizing that it is not appropriate to use taxpayer money to fund them. Unfortunately this is a subtlety that is lost on people like Ryan Murphy.
I'm yawning. I'm yawning some more. Now, I'm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Though I'd rather have funding for an art program that all the sports programs schools have anymore. Where I graduated from now has 3 football teams, 3 basketball teams per gender, 8 golf teams, 6 bowling teams, 3 swim teams, etc. etc. And they're all mostly paid for by the taxpayer (players pay like $100), with all new equipment every year…because it's a civil right to not be offended by having to use 1 or 2 year old equipment and it violates their rights to expect them to pay anything into it.
It wouldn't be so bad, but on things like the golf teams, it's the same core group of kids, with a few different bench warmers swapped in or out to justify calling it a 'different team'.
Then they go off on cutting busing, because people have gotten sick of voting in 'operations leveys that just go to building giant offices for the administration people. But I notice one set of programs that doesn't cut the busing (sports). It's obviously a ploy to just inconvenience parents into voting for more leveys…and they proved it this year. One of the guys who graduated a few years after me got a pro football gig. He offered to pay for the busing himself as long as he was playing pro ball. They turned him down. Then they accepted the day before school started, and didn't give him or the busing company the routes to get the kids. So they go out and make statements on how this proves that a private solution won't work because the guy paying for it and private busing companies don't know what they're doing.
Then let me explain to you what the Tea Party represents. The Tea Party is for one thing only: less government spending. Conservatives, not liberals, are for cuts in spending.
Americans need to finally be honest with themselves on education. First, there's absolutely no Constitutional basis for the govt to take kids away from their parents for 7 hours a day to "teach" them. And there's pretty much nothing you learn in school after basic reading, writing, and arithmatic that's beneficial in your everyday lives. I have never met anyone in my life who could say with a straight face that they learned something useful in middle or high school and I don't hang aroud with idiots either.
All this air head does is tell us how much she " hearts " Glee!! How did this dim wit get through Breitbart security???
Did Nolte sanction this? What's next? A blogger who continuously shares with us their "love" for Roman Polanski?
This chick is about as sharp as a bowling ball….
Liberal slant aside, I just think this show is boring. I've watched more than my share, giving into hype and each time I ending up changing it before the episode was over. The songs are a hit and miss. Most of the time they're not much different than the original which makes them really uninteresting. What's the point?
I like musicals. At least some (Annie, West Side Story, Bye Bye Birdie), but Glee not so much. It tries too hard. It's bland. It's tired already.
I can't stand the show but I guiltily admit that I do buy some of the music. Primarily because it reminds me of when the choir groups I was in used to do show choir stuff for competitions. (We were robbed one year because the judge was one of the people who did the original demo of the song we were performing, but I won't go there.) Nostalgia is a cruel mistress.
Would not watch that crap for a cool mill.
I agree, and as someone who took art and theater as much as possible in school I can attest that students will want these programs and WILL find ways to fund them themselves.
Why not have the music industry act as a sponsor and fund music programs in exchange for product advertising. Youth sports utilize corporate sponsors, so why not music programs?
This reminds me of the PBS funding issue. Sesame Street will stand on it's own, and doesn't need our tax dollars to survive. If Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network can survive with commercial breaks, PBS can too.
Fiscal conservatives are for cuts in spending. The line between Republicans and Democrats is usually based on social issues that do not concern the Tea Party. It's quite possible for someone to be socially liberal but fiscally conservative and thus you do wind up with some Democrats supporting the Tea Party.
Competition > "Public-Private Partnerships"
If alternatives to buses were available, the bus companies would be more sensitive to their customers.
How about a private "Dollar Van" company that picks up kids and drops them off? My local Boys & Girls Club has one for an annual fee of $50 per kid per year. They pick kids up from school, and take them to the Boys & Girls club where they can be picked up later, which is great for families where both parents work (or single parent households).
I agree with you – and that's the position Bachmann staked out … at first.
Then she told the red herring story of the women's who's daughter, er, caught *retardation* from Gardasil, which is ludicrous. Then she called into question the government having any say on any health care choices – a truly libertarian view, I suppose, but also next stop on the crazy train in terms of national politics. And, intentionally or not, her comments have indeed been viewed as friendly to the anti-vaccine camp, and she hasn't backed down from that. Allah covered it here – http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/16/video-bachm... and it's been written about ad nauseum in the conservative blogosphere, reducing her to a not-funny joke.
Which would make her perfect for the cast of Glee, fwiw.
So this is a Conservative website devoted to bringing liberal bias in entertainment culture to our attention, and they hire someone who loves Glee, the most harshly partisan show on TV? It makes zero sense.
This article was about a TV show? I just thought Jane Lynch was demonstrating 101 non-traditional uses for a 'bullhorn'.
Good googly-moogly!! It's called sarcasm! She is being sarcastic!
Sue Sylvester meet Archie Bunker, Archie meet Sue.
Unless they have Sue become a truther, a holocaust denier, or no abortions for rape and incest position taker the attempt to malign conservative politicians will backfire. Archie and his viewpoint were embraced while Meathead became the meathead, the same will happen with Sue as Will sounds more and more like a combination of Meathead and Gloria.
I watch Glee for three reasons – Sue, Brittney and Santana.
Notice how the characters aren't equal? Gays are happy and committed. Heteros are sluts. Conservatives act like nazis but everyone else is a victim.
This isn't about tolerance.
Kids that are required to study music and singing do much better in almost all subjects. A quick look at the line-up of your local symphony orchestra will reveal some of the best educated persons in your community.
The effect and correlation of music and higher education are undeniable and somewhat dramatic.
Oh, and by the way… I cant stand Glee. It's just more Hollyweird propaganda and soft smut.
Someone has to can this column right now.
Oh, please please please please please, BigH, let's not spend another season defending GLEE.
Yeah, Nolan and his Picture Youth nearly destroyed BigH last season in their continuing defense/offense of GLEE. I think the big kahuna allows columns of this nature to continue here b/c he wants hit count or something. Outside of standing up for the talent of these young'uns performing on GLEE, there really isn't all that much to defend, with another notable exception of production quality.
ERm … it ain't sarcasm IF you're experienced with BigH's track record of defending GLEE.
Nothing wrong with that (buying the music) … I do the same for my wife …
Correlation does not equal causation.
For every member of the symphony orchestra that got straight "A"s is someone who can rap and dance but can't read of use proper grammar.
I don't need a study to prove my point, watch TV.
I just saw the ratings for last night's season premiere and Glee's ratings are down from last year's premiere. And it begins …
how about war spendings, military bases around the globe spendings…. I havn'nt seen the ' bi partisan' tea party zombies reiling and expressing their angst over that one.
but, everybody knows the reason for that. the tea party is anything but bi partisan.
a clutch of white, conservative and for most part religious ….this ain't no stereotyping, this is an obvious conclusion you get from watching debates,rallies and listening to what they say every time they hog air time.
spendings is the least of their agenda but they gotta start with something that looks bi partisan.
if tea trades could have their way with their entire todo list they would repeal any piece of legislation liberals have fought for, put gays in the closet, deracinate Hollywood and pop culture as we know and replace it with jingo fest and hallmark crap.
Not many but at least some. I have many friends that are Democrats, Libertarians and Independents that have joined the Tea Party movement because of the out of control spending by the Feds. I think many agree that spending and the deficit is the 500 lb. Fed gorilla in the room, and they are from all political persuasions. Obama and the lefties would have all of us believe differently, though, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Seems the Hogbreath troll is one of the Obama lefties.
You took it way too seriously. The article is sarcasim.
Get over yourself. It's sarcasim and meant to be funny. You are taking the article way too seriously. Try putting on your funnybones and reread it. The article makes some valid points about the stupidity on Glee and humorously.
Watching "Glee" is like a white person watching BET or a gringo watching Telemundo. You get this feeling of "I don't think I'm supposed to be watching this". Like going to a girlfriend's family reunion…you just don't want to be there.
Ok, this was baffling. I've never seen the show, so I am taking all that you've said as being accurate.
So if you are a conservative or conservative-leaning… why are you watching it?! Why would you sit there and have many, if not all, your views insulted and mocked in this manner?
Conservatives complain about the treatment Hollywood gives us. Rightly so. But then we go and SUPPORT things like this?
Someone explain this to me.
Sure doesn't read like sarcasm to me!
So was my post! ( But still, this Jenny chick is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer.)
Yeah, Bachmann missed an opportunity to be consistent in her argument. And instead of playing it cool and staying in "sniper mode" she went full automatic and started blasting away at anything moving.
It NEVER should have been about the merits of vaccine, only about a government mandate that forces people to do something or even causes them to have to jump threw hoops in order to opt out of the treatment.
If she had stuck with that argument it would have served her well. Instead she opted for scatter-brained flying pasta attack.
Substitute recruting for breeding and I think we'll see how they multiply.
So, if she wins as an ultra-conservative candidate, who is it making fun of?
Conservatives for their views or Liberals for not being able to win on theirs?
Some people watch Glee. I hate you people.
that's the really sick part…adopting a helpless child and (fill in the blank)
That's what happens when you only get your news from people who support your worldview. You miss things like fiscal conservatives complaining about the spending that went on during the Bush administration, the displeasure with Bush over the first stimulus bill, and Tea Party candidates bumping off more "mainstream" candidates in primaries over fiscal issues.
Nature, Nurture, Tomato, Tumato . . . it's a huge Civil Rice Issue this Gay Marriage.
True. Music inspires math, english, reading, rhythm, timing, co-ordination, working in a group and history.
"In high school relationship news, the teenagers are still super slutty. In one scene, Santana and Brittany try to convince Quinn to come back to the Cheerios and glee club by referring to their trio as the unholy trinity, and making light of the fact that they had all slept with Puck the previous year."
Santana, Puck, Quinn – are these supposed to be the names girls or boys or what? Man, I'm getting old.
Santana, Puck, Quinn – are these supposed to be the names of girls or boys or what? Man, I'm getting old.
I am very conservative and still enjoy the show very much. I truly enjoy listening to the talented young people perform and enjoy the musical numbers. I am certain there are many people who have a problem distinguishing fact from fiction and may be swayed by a television program's politics, but I'm not one of them.
As long as they continue to provide quality entertainment, I will continue to watch, but if the show begins to assault conservatives, they will lose me as a viewer.
"It NEVER should have been about the merits of vaccine, only about a government mandate that forces people to do something or even causes them to have to jump threw hoops in order to opt out of the treatment."
Exactly. She's definitely off my list.
All I learned in music class is that I can't sing & I can't read music. Why should people pay taxes to figure that out?
Santana, Puck, Quinn – are these supposed to be girls names?
The worst part about "Glee" isn't the swipes at conservatives, or the students with alternative lifestyles. No, the worst part about Glee is that its success makes it very likely that someone will decide that it's a good time to bring back "Cop Rock."
Telemundo does have hot actresses in the telenovelas. Just sayin.
Wow, that show sounds awesome. Please do keep us updated! Yay Glee!!
*eyes rolling violently*
jenny, really, you dont have to watch that junk because of me. i'm just not that interested.
is there a stronger word than "junk" that wont get me banned here? then that's the word i wanted to use.
I've endured having to listen to it while my daughter watched it. I thought it was hideous. American Idol with a script. A very bad script.
The ratings for Glee weren't just down, they were WAY down – 32% from last year's premiere.
"So what if it’s a microcosm of leftist indoctrination that spoon-feeds liberal drivel into eagerly waiting mouths? What isn’t, these days?
Well why doesn't Big Hollywood just throw in the freakin' towel? I used to "heart" BH but it's getting harder and harder to do so. From BH's repeated praise for GLEE's saccharine propaganda for the left to praise for "American Family" which continues to normalize homosexual marriage and adoption to praise for films like KICK-@SS that degrade and debase children. Yeah, some here have decried it all as well, but have you never heard of editorial consistency?
HAVE YOU NO FILTER??? IS THIS THE KIND OF POST-MODERN THINKING WE CAN EXPECT FROM "CONSERVATIVES" BORN AFTER 1970???
Why not buy the original songs and let this leftist activist's show rot?
Yea, still feels like you're peeking through the fence at a pool party that you ain't invited to.
I think you are giving her too much credit, and John Nolte too. He is very nearly as inconsistent intellectually as this Jenny person. I don't see any evidence that it's sarcasm, but rather only expressing an awareness that loving this show is likely inconsistent with conservative worldview, but darn it, she likes it anyway.
I'm sick of this inconsistent thinking. If conservatives were consistent, this kind of show would shrivel up and blow away.
Glee is sh*t.
Even if you don't factor in the liberal slant of the show, it's not a very good show.
I watched the entire first season just to see what the big deal was. The characters are all broadly drawn cliche's and stereotypes. The characters aren't likable. The actors aren't talented enough to make the bad material work. The musical numbers are overproduced, poorly done and often have nothing to do with the 'plot' (such as it is). They did a cover of a Lady Gaga song that was worse than the original. How does that happen? The show is predictable and boring.
Sorry, I'm not gay or a 12 year old girl… Glee doesn't "excite" me in the least.
She won't win.
They began to assault conservative in the first season. The "Talent" the young people have is produced in a studio. As for enjoying the musical numbers… well, there's no accounting for taste.
Awwwww! Bahiabob needs his binky!
Clearly, dude, if you had experience with BigH's on-again, off-again GLEE worship sessions, you'd understand where I — and it looks like everyone else — are coming from. BigH either needs to embrace its inner GLEE and accept their love of the show OR they need to denounce it, and then stick with the position. Nothing wrong with finding some good hidden inside the bad, but the constant waffling really grates on Conservatives b/c we want to see opinions maintained over time … not changing episode by episode.
But, like I said, settle in on that binky and you'll be fine.
I don't watch the show… heck I hardly watch anything on the network stations anymore. However, if I read the article correctly, it states "Sue Sylvester gains in the polls".
So, yes, she probably won't win, but what does it say that saying parents should pay extra for music and art, increases her standings in the "polls"?
I won't bother arguing about the benefits of learning to play a musical instrument, as that isn't relative to the discussion. She could have said she was going to cut free lunches, since parents should support their children.
Why people voted me down for asking this question is beyond me.
The comment rating frequently makes little sense, except in the sort of obvious situations where it really isn't needed anyway. Nuanced comments frequently get abused.
Conservatives (and stupid voters — who will demonstrate their stupidity by voting for her in Glee logic). Liberals will not be made fun of in this instance because the show will indulge in one of liberals favorite pasttimes — pretending that they are helpless victims who are too darn smart to win the day.
It has never occured to me to even try and find out what network this clown act is on or what time it comes on. I have never seen more than 3 seconds of a clip. Isn't this show for "teens"?
So if it comes down to her vs. Obama you'll vote for Obama?
1. I don't think she's going to get the nomination. It might just go to Perry.
2. Of course not. I meant she's off my list in terms of the primary.
The fact is if Republicans win in 2012 there is no guarantee that the person will be 100% Tea Party. It would be unrealistic to expect it at this juncture.
What we can do though is KEEP THE TEA PARTY ALIVE while the Republican is in office. Keep true to the reason why we started theh Tea Party – that it wasn't just about party, it was about principles; specifically First Principles and abiding by our Constitution.
I would agree that Glee is a waste of air time. Conservatives aren't cut from the same cookie cutter and baked in the same oven like liberals so you may find opinions that differ with yours among fellow conservatives who post articles and comment on the Bigs. if that isn't your cup of tea just don't read those you disagree with and stop the whining and carping. You may be mistaken for a leftie..
Give Jenny space and time to develop. I see some gems and some goobers among the chaff. Also, did someone appoint you to the position of Big critic or did you just assume the role all by yourself?
I must say, WTF??? If you don't like the subject of the article, just don't read it, skippy. Peeing all over yourself is very unattractive and gives away your drug habit. Glee is a waste of good broadcast air space but we can have some fun with the content and enjoy some humor and sarcasim at the shows expense. Get over yourself, Clark.
That's a rather bizarre inversion of logic, Dad, but since you're defending intellectual inconsistency, it's not unexpected. Making a cogent point about intellectual consistency is carping and whining? I may find opinions different than mine? *gasp* Really? Maybe next you'll tell me I should read more books, maybe even get out more.
For what it's worth, I sure hope that sometimes you're mistaken for a conservative.
I anointed myself LOL. Look Seeing Double is helping me out here. Consider that a second opinion!
I usually do have the original versions of the songs I like but hearing a choral spin on them makes me want that version, too, for my above reason.
So you're are a self appointed critic, then. How much are you paying yourself? Is SeeingDouble your assistant ,also? Do you pay him? Does the Self Appointed Critic position detract from your day job? I hope you didn't quit your day job. LOL!
Funny thing is, with a line like "pay for it yourselves", I'd vote for Sue
Can you show me how they are inconsistent intellectually? Can you provide examples contrasting opinion differences with intellectual inconsistency in their articles? it is possible that making the criticism of perported 'intellectual inconsistency' is your obsession and only serves to ridicule those whom you disagree with as an self absorbed elitist fraud? Are you so caught up in your own 'intellectual perfection' you can't see that you have a mania? Maybe you should read some DIFFERENT books and get out LESS, professor pinhead.
It's just another homo promo….
Sorry, I don't watch trash, especially preachy trash. Especially preachy trash from left wing morons (are there any other kind?).
What a disgusting comment.
Watching Telemundo is a great way to work on your Espanol.
"Teenagers in committed and loving relationships."
Strive for committed/loving in life, but TV relationships with stability get awfully boring very quickly.
Puck has an excuse. The character's real name is Noah Puckerman.
Quinn's full name is Lucy Quinn Fabray
Santana Lopez on the other hand…
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