Good News: Superman Loves America Again!
by John NolteVia Bleeding Cool:
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If you remember, in David Goyer’s most recent issue of DC comics’ Action Comics, Superman got all sanctimonious and Leftist about being an American citizen and huffed his intention to renounce his citizenship: “‘Truth, justice and the American way’ — It’s not enough anymore.”
Whatever.
According to Bleeding Cool, though, Superman is something of a schizophrenic and maybe even a super-secret neocon because in today’s edition of DC Comics’ Superman he’s all about The America again.
Above is the first frame of the comic’s closing page, below the fold you can read the rest…
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Again via Bleeding Cool, here’s the full transcript:
“That’s what America is about, really. That’s the American way. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – and second chances. None of us are forced to be anything we don’t want to be. When I was young I know that I would be someone different when I grew up. I would leave home and make a new life for myself. A new start, a second chance. When I first went to Metropolis, it was full of people who’d done the same thing. People from all over America – from over the world - who went to the city to live the lives they anted – to be the people they wanted to be. That’s the idea that America was founded on, but it’s not just for the people born here, it’s for everyone. And it’s for people like me and Livewire too.”
“…not just for the people born here, it’s for everyone.”
Wow. So in Action Comics, Superman is United Nations kinda guy apparently ashamed of being an American, but in Superman he’s a flag-waving patriot and a bit of a neocon prepared to spread the American way throughout the land. Interesting.
As someone sitting less than twenty feet from over 500 Superman comics collected over the long course of a misspent youth, I’d very much like this all to end with Neocon Superman sending pansy-ass United Nations’ Superman to the Phantom Zone … forever.
Again, please check out Bleeding Cool here. Rich Johnston did the yeoman’s work and it’s a cool site, as well.
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Apparently superman is concerned about graphic novel sales. . .
Gotta love two different people writing the same story. Comics can't even keep a guy dead, much less consistent.
Yeah, that bit with Supe giving up his US citizenship wasn't really canon. It was just a dumb short story by a writer that doesn't usually work on the series. There was no way it was ever going to be official. Comics often do little short stories like this as a way of exploring different aspects of a character. They're usually forgotten almost immediately. This whole episode was overblown from the beginning.
That's not to say that the comic book industry isn't full of libtards with a dim view of America. It most definitely is, but this was, I think, a false alarm.
Now that the Chickens–t in Chief singlehandedly killed Osama it's kewl to be American again. That or Superman is going to marry Green Arrow.
Is Superman involved with Livewire? In the animated series, she was a villian…
*Shrugs* Reminds me of why I gave up on reading comics. Movies and animated series about superheroes are wonderful things, but comics are just too tangled to be any fun (He's good. Now he's evil. Now he's dead. Now he's alive and good again. Wait, the good version was a clone! The evil version is alive!
Even with digital publishing, there wasn't enough time to re-do Superman 711 and get it printed. I feel this is mixed editoral messages.
Give me minuses if you must, I'm just going to give DC Comics the benefit of the doubt that David Goyer in Action 900 didn't have full editorial support.
You nailed it on the head. I was just being sarcastic.
I think that John Nolte is too kind….
Superman is not looking to spread American exceptionalism to the remote corners of the globe. The key phrase is "…not just for people born here". I interpreted that to mean, "American owes the world."
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Lefties quote it but I wonder if they truly understand what it means. I caught Matt Damon reciting the preamble to the Constitution on that Howard Zinn/History Channel thing and I'm like, "he doesn't believe a word of what he's saying."
I am possibly a bit oversensitive on the subject of non citizens.
But, is Superman now beginning to see that those that came in to the USA illegally
should be given citizenship status? What does not born here exactly mean to the
newly affirmed loyalist Superman. If you are a citizen what difference does it make
where you were born. If you are an illegal than obviously where you were born does
make a difference.
Precisely. Comic characters make arbitrary personality shifts on a monthly basis. If a publisher can't keep a character fresh without drastically changing what made the character interesting in the first place, then the time has come to retire that particular comic, at least for a little while.
It's understandable when you have multiple writers over the span of say 50 years. But not issue to issue, same storyline.
Its like the movie Deer Hunter when a different writer took over mid-way. You had Deniro and Walken literally switch characters.
you stumbled head long into the truth- the new paradigm of Obama as 'kickass' makes it now ok to kill terrorists and other bad guys who just a short time ago weren't terrorists but 'angry nativists' or some such Bravo Sierra…
He's gone from renouncing his citizenship to calling for amnesty for illegals … no secret neocon here … Superman's become a leftist.
There was even a short run/storyline where Superman was a vegetarian volunteering in Africa to do some Peace Corp type stuff. Just the writer living out his fantasies.
Perhaps Superboy will punch the walls of reality and make it so that pansy-ass United Nations Superman never even existed.
I was about to suggest the same. I have many friends who love the country/state/city they are in solely on who's holding the power there.
Hah! Also, maybe they can undo the Timothy Drake undo they did last time Superboy punched reality.
Edit: Also Captain Boomerang. I don't care what others say. He's a lame supervillain.
I would like to take this opportunity to give props to the screenwriters on Thor. They managed to incorporate over 50 years of other writer's storylines into one 2 hour movie.
At a time when other writer's can't go issue to issue without contradicting themselves. Plus, Hollywood tends to Hollywoodify (my word) comic book characters. Especially with the success of Iron Man, everyone wants to make their character's into Tony Stark, the sharp witted comedy. (see Green Lantern)
Thor's comedy came from him being a fish out of water and ultra-cordial. Smashing the mug when he wants another drink, going into the pet shop asking for a horse or a dog large enough to ride. Even the line, "I would have words with my brother" was an inside homage to the character. He would calmly say that after decimating someone in brutal fashion.
Have these writer's ever taken a class? Why can't they understand the character they're writing? If they don't like the character, write for a different one.
Have you seen this? Toy company put tons of muscles on the skinny lawyer: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/toy-company-unvei...
"Comics can't even keep a guy dead…"
And the finest irony? It has been argued, convincingly, The Death of Superman nearly 20 years ago (!) nearly killed the entire comic book industry.
sad but true- and they will play this for ALL it's worth…
Superman may not be able to decide if he is pro American or not but he and his bosses seem to like American money. At least while it is still worth something.
The comments are frigging pricless..
"Looks more like Michele than Barry, you know, the sexy arms and all."
Kind of wishy washy, isn't he?I guess his super powers don't include super-judgment.
Jason Todd, right. All these Robins who aren't Dick Grayson (all … two of them?) get mixed up in my head.
The Todd rebirth was made worse because the writers at the time of the "Death of Robin" story stated that he wouldn't be coming back if the readers actually voted him dead, because that would be lame. Granted no one stays dead in comics for long any more, but Todd was so horribly unpopular that there was no reason to do it.
I was hoping Superman would win this tug of war vs P.C. Comics http://bit.ly/iOJ0p8
I don't know if he was as unpopular as people claim. As I recall about 10,000 people voted on whether he should live or die and less than 100 votes separated the two outcomes.
But nothing is ever permanent in comic books. I remember when Marvel killed off their vampires. They even published a "death certificate" in Dr. Strange and Jim Shooter said Marvel would never again do a vampire story. Then a few years later they retconned the whole thing and vampires are back.
Nolte,
My father had Superman 1 to over some insane number. His mother burned every last one. She said they were junk. Junk . . .
(I've got my X-files under lock and key)
JD
Comic writers have a real issue with the idea of taking a canon and sticking to it. Apparently every last one thinks its edgy and cool to retcon these days. They also have to change a character or sudeenly discover some heretofor unknown facet of the character to explore. It means that characters get downright schizophrenic and diluted rather than remaining the iconic entities people know and love.
Either that or he doesn't understand a word of it.
His rape fantasies?
Who gives a shiite! He probably left, found out the grass wasnt greener, and begged at the border to be allowed in! Send that traitor to Gitmo, WITH plenty of Krptonite in his cell!
I knew it. I called this a week ago, when I posted this:
"I don't buy this completely. It ticks me off, yes, but I have a feeling it was done for precisely that reason.
These lefty comic book writers want to make their point and incite the public, who they probably feel "never consider the other side." Once the dust settles a little bit, they'll return Supes to his patriotic ways. At least that's what I hope.
Comic books have been in decline for decades, really. Every once in a while, they whip up something completely outrageous to spur interest. I remember Superman dying in the early 90s, Clark Kent and Lois marrying, etc. Very manipulative stuff. I think they know exactly what they're doing."
I hate to say "I told you so……"
Nope, too late for me. I'm only reading Sarahcuda superhero comic strips from here out.
Thanks DC!!!!
Unless the writer had at least a two months warning that Osama was going to take a bullet? I dunno. It takes about four months for DC to get a comic from script, to pencile art, to inked art to lettered and colored. Even if all you had to change was the script and lettering, you'd still need about four weeks to change everything.
So in Action Comics, Superman is United Nations kinda guy apparently ashamed of being an American
WRONG.
if you actually READ THE STORY you'd understand SUPERMANS "GIMMICK".
It's MATT!! DAMON!! , he doesn't have a clue.
*Quinn*
It's amazing how low sales are such a great motivator
Thank God! Now I can sleep at night!
I always thought it was a tax dodge anyway. He becomes a citizen of the world, who does he pay his taxes to? The UN, lol.
Dang! Now what am I going to do with all this kryptonite?
I hope Fastin reads that comment…it would make for a very interesting book…
Surprise!
Supes hates America makes news everywhere.
Supes back on the wagon with America – only a two websites.
You can only make a first impression once.
Spinning the lie does not fix it – it only makes it worse.
I am through with this idiot Superman. "Truth, Justice and all that stuff" is still his mantra.
I will stick with the original.
anyone got an aspiran? talk of comic books gives me a headache…
Brilliant marketing ploy. I hadn't thought about Superman in decades.
So is Superman still an American? If so – is he the Alec Baldwin kind of American who threatens to leave,
but never does?
Don't let the door hit you in the a** Superman. I think I'll use that in the future.
(Hey! That's a pretty good send-off line.)
"Don't let the door hit you in the a** Superman,"
Thank you for pointing this out and bringing a little sanity to the hyperventilating.
And may I also point out that the "offending" story can be read as a critique of the Obama administration (Supes intervened to protect Iranian green revolution protesters, whom Obama ignored), and that it was written by David Goyer, who wrote the not-lefty Batman Begins and did the story outline for the REALLY not-lefty The Dark Knight.
In a Flash-only continuity, I like Captain Boomerang. He's goofy and weird, like most of the Flash villains. But, in a greater DC universe, he is a bit silly. And not in a good, Ambush Bug way.
It is just a comic book. Don't think this is real life please
It is slow in sales not because of political reason, but for the reason that majority of people just get comics from Bit Torrent.
Superman does not concern about sales because it is not real.
OMG, really? Next you are gonna tell me that the ester bunny isn't real. . . oh crap, does that mean Santa isn't real?
For the love of humanity WHY!?!?!?!?!
My world, shattered. . .
It is just like the words Barry says, they mean what they said, what is heard, what serves their interest, what gets their way, what is "depends on what the definition of is is", not yours necessarily is.
Well to tell you the truth, Santa is not real. There is no such thing as Easter Bunny. No Tooth Fairy either. . No GI Joe either. Siperman does not live in New York. Cannot find Stark Industry on BBB. And Lex Luthor has never been POTUS.
John, if Bleeding Cool said the sky was blue, I'd poke my head out the window and check to be safe.
After all, BC is the child of Rich Johnston, infamous comics gossip columnist and crazed Brit leftist. (I would call him a Communist, but he's rather further to the left than that.)
Johnston will forever be best remembered by me as the guy who literally cried when he saw the cover of the (vaporware) "American Power" comic. It featured a superhero punching someone who looked a lot like Osama Bin Laden. I was… puzzled at this. In the ensuing conversation, he let it be known that OBL was just a sickly old man who couldn't hurt anyone, and that such a depiction of him showed the creators who made the comic (including Chuck Dixon) were seriously deranged.
Yeah. That's the nitwit you're sourcing and giving hits to here.
Thor perfectly demonstrates how humor really works when done organically. The mug scene and pet store scenes rank as my favorites. (A close second was the great timing of Thor getting hit by some sort of vehicle.) Little wonder that even people who normally don't "get" Thor like myself really enjoyed Marvel's latest blockbuster.
Bring on the AVENGERS!
jdespirito wrote:
When's the last time you saw a pro-life message shoehorned into a comic?
Actually, back in the 1990s, there was a comic called Icon tackled the life issue and quite well I might add. Here is the trade collection of that story line:
http://www.amazon.com/Icon-Heros-Welcome-Dwayne-M...
One more thing: Clarence Thomas (yes, the Supreme Court Justice) LOVED this book. It may have had something to do with Icon being a Black Republican. (Sidebar: a Republican as a superhero? Wild!)
So, superhero comics can deal with pro-life stories or any story for that matter.
Globalist Superman? Neocon Superman?
Is someone running a hegelian dialectic here?
falsely imposed choices to create a controlled outcome.
I hate globalists. Not fond of Neocons either. So how about a big NO to each. The best way for Superman to help a confused and chaotic world is to stand by the principles that helped build his legend, and that of America.
He believes that HE is entitled to those things and eeryone else has to foot the bill for his happiness.
I give. I looked all over so I could give a witty, yet knowledgable reply- but I just can't find a Fastin anywhere. What am I missing here?
He will probably be battling the Minutemen on the border before long.Or maybe guarding shipments of guns being smuggled across the border by the gubmint.
No doubt. Still, as a former reader, it was disappointing.
My error…too tired to look something up before posting…I meant Bosch Fawstin…
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/author/bfawstin...
There…that should help…
Please tell me you're being facetious and that you do realize that Hollwood_Salty was being ironical.
Ok, honestly, and I know this won't be popular, but, those who actually follow action comics know that the story has superman being manipulated into a crisis of confidence. Its not like they just woke up one day and rewrote him – its a villain strategy. Given that, I think a lot of this is drummed up and shoehorned into a point you already wanted to make (liberalizing media).
Cool! Before my time at the Bigs, But I certainly think he'd do SarahCuda, Superhero proud.
by the way- are Superheros allowed to run for president? Maybe we should keep this under wraps until after 2012?
"…it's not just for the people born here, it's for everyone." (Including illegal immigrants and anyone else milking the system who expect a free ride in life!)
I am being facetious of course. But for the 5 people that gave me a thumb done, I bet they thought those things were real including Lex Luthor is the POTUS.
I thought that might be the case, but sometimes one cannot be too sure. I've seen some real dillies on these threads.
I try not to pay much mind to the thumbs down stuff. Personally I rarely give a thumbs down to anyone (unless they write something particularly egregious) since too many people seem to take pride in having a lower score. Why give them the satisfaction? On the other hand if someone is very amusing or make what I consider a salient point I give them a thumbs up every time.
I noted sometime back that my own overall score is erratic at best. I had a score of over 100 for a while and then one day it dropped to 60 something. A couple of weeks later it rose back up to the high 80s only to drop again to the 70s shortly after. After that I stopped paying attention. I'm not sure what logarithm Intense Debate uses to calculate our scores but it is anything but reliable.
"Teleprompter sold separately."
So, we've gone from an anti-American Superman to an open-borders Superman. Lovely.
Forget Superman, in all his incarnations, and forget his publishers.
Very true.
Jimmy Olsen always kept it real, though.
Foreseeing danger Superman rushes to the White House and admonishes President Bush: "Read the G.D. report titled 'Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US' you mental midget!
Replies Bush, "He He wait till you see what I have in store for the econonmy!"
I've got a much better one.
"Don't let the door hit you in the S."
I'm so damn tired of those stupid-a$$ liberals who think America is for everyone in the world. There are peoples around the world who really don't give a crap about America and the American ways, just the resources and lands there.
I recently watched a documentary on comic books on the History channel a few days ago. Wow. They're all leftists. Not surprising since pretty much everyone in the entertainment industry is. But it's even more widespread in the comic book industry than I thought. They're mildly patriotic at best.
So does that mean so far 14 people think Santa is real?
Declarations that the comic book has returned to its patriotic roots may be premature. Superman is the most famous illegal alien.
If find this latest news of as little interest as I did with the renunciation–its a comic book.
It can take less than that. Even with a slow artist, the turnaround from final script to printed material on shelves can be under three months. Case in point: the current highly-hyped FLASHPOINT's final script hasn't yet been turned in (as of 12 May, anyway), but is scheduled to be in stores in August. Even accounting for the fact that it's drawn by a Kubert not named Joe.
"All these Robins who aren't Dick Grayson (all … two of them?) get mixed up in my head. "
Four. (Five, if you count the radically different pre- and post-Crisis Jason Todds.) Jason, Tim, Stephanie (for, like, five seconds, but she counts) and now Damian (Bruce's son and Ra's al-Ghul's grandson).
I really feel as you do to, P.T, but the minute by minute deteriation of what built this country
just really tic's me off. It may be an age thing.
Heck, NO…!!!
SarahCuda should be a bi-monthly release…
We should be making this a regular issue…certainly better than "Whack a Troll"…
"Whack a Troll" too! Two for the price of one!
Whatevs. The only Superman I'm a fan of is the one that sent the Toyman falling to his doom after he murdered a little girl in that Adam Baldwin one. Unfortunately, this turned out out to be the "evil" Superman. Right.
"That's not to say that the comic book industry isn't full of libtards with a dim view of America. It most definitely is…"
The irony of that is they live in a country-culture that invites them earn a living by drawing freakin' cartoons! And lets face it, most of the doodlers we know — God bless 'em — are geeks who have almost no other professional quality. In Cuba, they'd be government propagandists and in saudi arabia they'd be the half-time beheading show at the soccer stadium.
Earn on brave truth speakers!
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